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		<title>God Damn Blasphemers</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 11:07:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Having just been rocked by further revelations of abuse and cover-up rampant in the Catholic Church, the Irish State decided to kick off the new year by outlawing blasphemy. Somehow they feel that being mean to religious people deserves a fine. Specifically &#8220;A person who publishes or utters blasphemous matter shall be guilty of an [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having just been rocked by further <a id="hiup" title="revelations" href="../2009/1944">revelations</a> of abuse and cover-up rampant in the Catholic Church, the Irish State decided to kick off the new year by <a id="eb1o" title="outlawing" href="http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/plweb-cgi/fastweb?state_id=1262524102&amp;view=ag-view&amp;numhitsfound=189&amp;query_rule=%28%28$query1%29%3C%3DYEAR%3C%3D%28$query2%29%29%20AND%20%28%28$query3%29%29%3Alegtitle%20AND%20%28%28$query4%29%29%3Anumber%20AND%20%28%28$query5%29%29%3Asectionno%20%20AND%20%28%28$query0%29%29&amp;query0=religion&amp;docid=73536&amp;docdb=Acts&amp;dbname=Acts&amp;dbname=SIs&amp;sorting=none&amp;operator=and&amp;TemplateName=predoc.tmpl&amp;setCookie=1">outlawing</a> blasphemy. Somehow they feel that being mean to religious people deserves a fine. Specifically <em>&#8220;A person who publishes or utters blasphemous matter shall be guilty of an offence and shall be liable upon conviction on indictment to a fine not exceeding €25,000.&#8221; </em>How wonderfully Dark Ages of them. I&#8217;m so proud to see my country embracing the new decade by outlawing freedom of speech, in particular speech directed at religion. If the world&#8217;s various gods are so all-knowing and powerful are they really going to find the rambled insults of us mere rational humans that upsetting?<br />
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Needless to say people haven&#8217;t let this lie and <a id="ewen" title="Athiest Ireland" href="http://www.atheist.ie/">Atheist Ireland</a> responded to the new laws by <a id="mh:s" title="publishing 25 apparently blasphemous quotes" href="http://blasphemy.ie/2010/01/01/atheist-ireland-publishes-25-blasphemous-quotes/">publishing 25 apparently blasphemous quotes</a> (media coverage <a id="t2js" title="here" href="http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2010/0103/breaking3.htm">here</a> and <a id="hmp." title="here" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jan/01/irish-atheists-challenge-blasphemy-law">here</a>). These are not just aimed at the Catholic Church either, they include quotes directed at Islam, and even Björk having a go at the Buddhists. There has yet to be any legal action taken against them.</p>
<p>In defense of the introduction of this law, the Minister for Justice Dermot Ahern said <a id="er8h" title="back in May" href="http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2009/0519/breaking53.html?via=rel?via=rel">back in May</a> that due to the fact blasphemy is an offence in the Irish Constitution (again highlighting the pervasive influence of the Catholic Church in the founding of the Republic of Ireland) he was obliged to include it in an update of the defamation laws. To remove blasphemy from the constitution would require a referendum of the people of Ireland, and Mr Ahern reckoned that the &#8220;current economic environment&#8221; was not conducive to this.</p>
<p>The law does include a fairly broad get-out-of-jail clause, specifying that <em>&#8220;It shall be a defence to proceedings for an offence under this section for the defendant to prove that a reasonable person would find genuine literary, artistic, political, scientific, or academic value in the matter to which the offence relates&#8221;.</em> However one could argue that the number of &#8220;reasonable persons&#8221; in a world that outlaws blasphemy is questionable&#8230;</p>
<p>I personally found point 4 of this new law to be particularly interesting, where they attempt to distinguish between &#8220;religion&#8221; and mere &#8220;cults&#8221;.</p>
<p><em>&#8220;In this section “ religion ” does not include an organisation or cult—<br />
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<li><em>the principal object of which is the making of profit, or</em></li>
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<li><em>that employs oppressive psychological manipulation—</em></li>
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<li><em>of its followers, or</em></li>
<li><em>for the purpose of gaining new followers.&#8221;</em></li>
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<p><em> </em><br />
I assume telling people they are going to live an eternity of torment and pain for not following your god counts as oppressive psychological manipulation, no?</p>
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		<title>Blasphemy to be abolished in England and Wales?</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 19:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi all The government has put forward an an amendment to the current Criminal Justice Bill abolishing the offence of blasphemy and this has been passed by the House of Lords. The rather interesting debate is reported at: http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld200708/ldhansrd/text/80305-0005.htm (scroll three quarters of the way down and click on &#8220;next section&#8221; to continue) I will [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi all</p>
<p>The government has put forward an an amendment to the current Criminal Justice Bill abolishing the offence of blasphemy and this has been passed by the House of Lords. The rather interesting debate is reported at:</p>
<p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld200708/ldhansrd/text/80305-0005.htm" target="_blank"><span>http://www.publications.pa</span><span>rliament.uk/pa/ld200708/ld</span>hansrd/text/80305-0005.htm</a> (scroll three quarters of the way down and click on &#8220;next section&#8221; to continue)</p>
<p>I will be discusss this development at the talk at Skeptics at the Pub on 15 April 2008.</p>
<p>Do let me have any thoughts.</p>
<p>Best wishes,</p>
<p>David</p>
<p><a title="John William Gott Memorial Society" href="http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=24240495280" target="_blank">http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=24240495280</a></p>
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		<title>Skeptics in the Pub, London &amp; Other Events!!!</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 15:54:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Sid</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi All, This is a long one as there&#8217;s lots on in April&#8230; Firstly, we&#8217;re all happy to announce that we&#8217;ve had successful year so far. SitP has had an article in both Nature and the Londonist&#8217;s websites and have also been awarded &#8220;Top 50 best London websites&#8221; and &#8220;Top 10 best London communities&#8221; by [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi All,</p>
<p>This is a long one as there&#8217;s lots on in April&#8230;</p>
<p>Firstly, we&#8217;re all happy to announce that we&#8217;ve had successful year so far. SitP has had an article in both Nature and the Londonist&#8217;s websites and have also been awarded &#8220;Top 50 best London websites&#8221; and &#8220;Top 10 best London communities&#8221; by Time Out magazine. Thanks to everyone who has helped us over the last 9 years, 100 Skeptics in the Pubs and have lent support by coming each month to make us one of the best communities in all Ye Olde London towne.</p>
<p>On the 15th April, our resident lawyer and skeptic, David Green, will be giving us the lowdown on how the law handles the issues of belief and non-belief through the courts. It will range from The repeal of The Fraudulent Mediums Act to blasphemy. Full details below.</p>
<p>Date: 15th April<br />
Time: 7.00pm<br />
Location: The Penderels Oak (Cellar Bar), Holborn<br />
Title:<br />
The Skeptic in the Courtroom</p>
<p>This talk will address, in an objective and balanced manner, how the law deals with certain controversial issues of belief and non-belief. Prompted by recent developments, the talk wil explore whether the courtroom is really the appropriate forum for settling disputes that relate to controversial issues of belief and non-belief.</p>
<p>For example, the Fraudulent Mediums Act 1951, the last remnant of the old witchcraft legislation, is to be repealed in April 2008. Mediums and psychics will now be under a new and modern legal regime in respect of any unfair commercial practices. But how will these new sanctions work in practice? Will mediums and psychics who adopt questionable practices be more or less likely to face legal action?</p>
<p>The ancient common law offence of blasphemy may also soon be abolished. A recent High Court decision has effectively narrowed its scope in any case. There is the new offence of incitement to religious hatred. But can the legal process really deal with what can be questions of religious dispute?</p>
<p>Other examples of where the law grapples with issues of belief and non-belief include the &#8220;Evolution&#8221; trials in United States, the Holocaust denial trials, and when religious groups seek to incorporate aspects of religious law into more general legal systems.</p>
<p>The talk will describe and assess these and other legal developments, using practical examples. It will also offer practical suggestions for both skeptics and non-skeptics on how legal regimes may affect them.</p>
<p>David is a solicitor in London with wide experience of the communications, media and public sector fields. He is the author of the chapters on the restrictions that criminal law places on free speech in the current edition of Law and the Media.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>As I mentioned at our April Fools&#8217; special, James Randi will be giving a lecture at Conway Hall on the 19th April.</p>
<p>Guest Speakers will include:</p>
<p><a title="Simon Singh's Homepage" href="http://www.simonsingh.net/" target="_blank">Simon Singh</a></p>
<p><a title="Ben Goldacre's Bad Science" href="http://www.badscience.net" target="_blank">Ben Goldacre</a></p>
<p><a title="Chris French's Goldsmiths' homepage" href="http://www.goldsmiths.ac.uk/apru/french.php" target="_blank">Chris French</a></p>
<p><a title="Susan Blackmore's website" href="http://www.susanblackmore.co.uk/" target="_blank">Susan Blackmore</a></p>
<p><a title="Richard Wiseman's website" href="http://www.richardwiseman.com/" target="_blank">Richard Wiseman</a></p>
<p>Details and tickets can be booked from here: <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://skeptic.org.uk/randi" target="_blank">http://skeptic.org.uk/randi/</a><br />
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Last, but not least; TAM regular, Phil Plait &#8211; otherwise know as the &#8220;<a title="Bad Astronomy Blog" href="http://www.badastronomy.com/bablog/2008/03/28/a-matter-of-concern/" target="_blank">Bad Astronomer</a>&#8221; &#8211; will be having a get together in London while he&#8217;s over here filming about the particle accelerator at CERN (LHC) with Prof. Brian Cox of the University of Manchester. When I get details of the meeting place I&#8217;ll post them on The Skeptic Magazine News page.</p>
<p>Please feel free to forward this email on to anyone who would be interested in coming to any of these events.<br />
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<p>See you all soon.</p>
<p>Sid Rodrigues</p>
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