Do you know who you remind me of?

[aab1]

You remind me of the gullible people that beleived cigarettes where healthy, didn;'t cause cancer, and weren't addictive. Or if you want an older example, you're just like the people that insisted the earth was flat and has "scientific proof" that it was flat.

That's how ridiculous all you people are compared to smarter, well informed people that know cigarettes are unhealthy (ok, maybe you woke up about that fraud by now, then again maybe not), that know the earth is round (you certainly know that, at least I hope) and that know drugs always cause more harm than good to the patient (you've obviously haven't realized this yet, but if you live at least another 10 years, this will be a commonly known fact, just like it's now known the earth is flat, but you guys are still in the old days when it comes to medicine and health), because on top of the fact that they do nothing to address the cause of the disease (they only mask symptoms - any doctor will tell you this), they cause additional side effects, health problems and other diseases down the road (which will of course be blamed on the patients genes, but genes don';t cause any disease, they only affect your risks, buy there ALWAYS has to be a direct cause to any disease, and the causes certainly aren't our genes).

[Killer Blob]

That's funny because you are actually describing yourself and not us. We're the sort of people who were sceptical about cigarettes and challenged the status quo, you're the person who believes something is good for you because it has always been taken, who has signed up to mythology over fact. We're the sort of people who discovered that the world was round, you're the sort of person who was so busy praying to the Sun God that you missed the debate.

[aab1]

Wow you really have absolutely insane beleifs, don't worry, 10 years from now you'll see you were dead wrong and I was right all along, and I have indisputable concrete proof anyway, I know MANY people who had cancer, all which used chemo died shortly after or a few years later at the most, all those who used the proper natural treatments were compeltely cured for years and never had cancer again. Anyway it's proven beyond any doubt that cancer is only curable through diet changes, watch that documentary I posted in my other recent post, and if you want to show you have any intelligence, watch it in it's entirety. including the 2nd part where they explain the science to back it up, if you can't even be bothered to watch it you'll be proving just how gullible you are.

You have no idea how much I'm laughing at you, it's sad though because it has to do with your health and your insane beleifs will leads to a VERY premature death, you can easily live to 120, but only if you stay far away from any drugs, as they are the leading cause of death and disease.

[Killer Blob]

"10 years from now you'll see you were dead wrong and I was right all along [Bwah ha ha]"

I've already told you about this delusion. Nutters like you have been saying this sort of thing for hundreds of years. Nutters like you have been saying this sort of thing to me for the last 30 years.

" know MANY people who had cancer, all which used chemo died shortly after or a few years later at the most, all those who used the proper natural treatments were compeltely cured for years and never had cancer again. "

You're a liar.

"you can easily live to 120, but only if you stay far away from any drugs"

Because that's how long people live in poor countries where they don't have access to western medicine? How long people lived 200 years ago? No? Oh, you're a liar then.

[aab1]

Lifespan was increased because of better hygene and less infectious illnesses, not medication, any sane doctor will confirm this. In any case, in the US lifespan is now going down for the first time.

By the way, the only person here lying is you, you're lying to yourself.

I KNOW these people who were cured from cancer using diet and nutrition, these people would all be dead had they used chemotherapy.

Answer this: Do you honestly know anyone who got cancer and survived more than 5 years using conventional treatments? If you do, then almost certainly you know more who died (according to conventional medicine themselves, the cure rate with chemo is 3-5%).

[aab1]

About your comment about "nutheads" saying this for 30 years, I'm sure it's more than 30 years, it's simply because it takes time for things to change, this medical system has been running for probably around 100 years now, and it's collapse is about to begin (drug sales have started to fall this year for the first time).

Also, statistics prove that not only drug sales are falling, but more and more people are relying on "alternative" medicien rather than conventional, in fact more people go to alternative doctors than conventional in the US, with the ratio increasing with every year, this clearly shows people are going away from conventional "band aid" solutions to real cures, which are only found in alternative medicine (doctors themselves will tell you they cannot cure any disease, they only "treat" diseases, as there's no money in prevention or cure).

[N=1]

in the US lifespan is now going down for the first time.

Also, statistics prove that not only drug sales are falling, but more and more people are relying on "alternative" medicien rather than conventional, in fact more people go to alternative doctors than conventional in the US, with the ratio increasing with every year.

:lol:

[aab1]

You want proof to those 2 lines you quoted? It's sad that you just laugh at something so serious without even bothjering to research, this clearly shows you have absolutely no interest in science and only listen to what doctors and drug companies have to sell you (that's being gullible, not only skeptic).

Out of the Journal Of American Medicine, conventional medicine themselves, so if you argue against this you're arguing against yourself:
Trends in alternative medicine use in the United States, 1990-1997: results of a follow-up national survey.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/quer ... ds=9820257

This study clearly proves that not only more and more people are using alternative medicine, but that since a few years, more people use alternartive than conventional, at least in the US, and not to mention they're paying out of their pocket when they could get the conventional treatments paid by insurance, doesn't that tell you something when more than half of medical visits are in alternative clinics where they have to pay when they could get conventional treatments for free?

And about the lifespan decrease, again, right from a journal of medicine, so you can't argue against it without making look even more foolish than you already do:
http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/short/352/11/1138

[N=1]

You want proof to those 2 lines you quoted?

Not from you, no.

Just laughing at the contradictory tripe that you post. That's all. :lol:

[aab1]

Amazing, the proof comes from the americain and new england medical journals and you think it's from me?

Just how little intelligence do you have? None at all I would say, you *****.

[aab1]

Exactly what are you guys trying to prove? You don't beleive alternative medicine, you don't beleive the information in conventional medicine journals, what do you beleive? Nothing?

[N=1]

You do believe alternative medicine, you do believe the information in conventional medicine journals, what do you believe? anything?

Just how little intelligence do you have?

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[aab1]

If this site is still here 10 years from now, and you haven't yet been murdered by conventional medicine by then, I'll be laughing my ass off at you guys as conventional medicine will be mostly based in diet and herbs 10 years from now, there will still be drugs and surgery for the times they are needed (physical injuries), but diseases will be mostly treated with diet changes (90% of today's diseases are a direct result of something wrong in the diet, so it's not surprising diet is the only way to permamently cure these, draugs are only "band aid" solutions to mask the effects your poor diet is having on you).

For example, taking dairy products causes high cholesterol, heart disease, and certain cancers, do you really think it's a smarter idea to take drugs to cover up those diseases caused by dairy than simply eliminating dairy from your diet? If you think the "band aid" drug approach is better you have no credibility at all.

[Killer Blob]

[quote="aab1"] For example, taking dairy products causes high cholesterol, heart disease, and certain cancers, do you really think it's a smarter idea to take drugs to cover up those diseases caused by dairy than simply eliminating dairy from your diet? If you think the "band aid" drug approach is better you have no credibility at all.[/quote]

Eliminating dairy from my diet to stay healthy (which I do) is a very different thing to thinking it will cure me of cancer or a serious illness (which is lunacy). As usual you are accusing us of things we don't believe and confusing scientific facts with woo-woo magic.

I cut my finger very badly last week. Strange that cutting dairy out of my diet didn't prevent the injury. I used a band aid. It helped. Taking Ginko Biloba would have made it worse as it thins the blood. Why am I even wasting my time trying to get through to you?

[aab1]

IT's amazing how you twist my words to make them into nonsense, I never, ever said removing dairy from the diet would cure cancer (it would however lower the risk of breast cancer which dairy is knwon to cause). Again, you are twisting ym worlkds to turn scientifically proven things into quackery.

Drinking miulk is not a cause of cut fingers, again, twisting my words into real quackery. Every single thing I have posted is scientifically proven fact, which you constantly twist intom real quackery to dismiss my scientifically proven facts.

Indeed, taking ginkgo would worsten a cut, I said gingo was scientifically proven to be more effective than alzeimhers drugs, I never said it stopped bleeding, again, twisting my proven facts into real quackery to ridicule me while ignoring the facts, however, taking cayenne pepper is proven to stop bleeding faster (of course now you'll probably try to say I claimed cayenne cures cancer, which I never said, and which is obviously doesn't do).